Perry County CWD Meeting - 2025
AUTHORIZATION TO DESTROY DEER
Missouri 2025
Authorization to DESTROY DEER - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 15, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
This should make you proud to be a Missouri Deer Hunter, Landowner and Conservationist!!!
Just to be clear, from the authorization, these are granted to specific land owners in core cwd areas.
Currently 1 list for 1 core area has 180 landowners listed that they asked to participate. Currently Missouri has 121 of these list and counting last year was 160 list of landowners.
Deer Management is dead in Missouri and is replaced with Disease Management statewide under Missouri Department of Conservation.
If you forgot Missouri Landowners - If I have less than 20 acres, YOU DO NOT qualify for landowner deer permits! But if you have 5 acres or more you do qualify to destory deer.
FETUS COLLECTION SUMMARY FROM THE
DESTORYED DEER
FETUS COLLECTION SUMMARY FROM THE DESTORYED DEER BY MISSOURI DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION MDC SHOOTING TEAMS FOR CWD!
The MDC CWD WINTER OPERERATION PLAN which has never been seen by the public or provided to the Missouri Citizens. Along with the information within or the federal grant money earmarked for CWD activities.
FY23 – CWD federal grant number is F22AF02261 for FY23 = $5,014,741.10 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
FY24 – CWD federal grant number is F23AF02089 for FY24 = $5,581,455.23 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
FY25 – CWD federal grant number is F24AF02854 for FY25 = $4,710,923,15 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
- MOBUCK$ 19 million total - has been issued for 2025/2026 - F25AF01720 for FY26
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
The MDC CWD WINTER OPERERATION PLAN which has never been seen by the public or provided to the Missouri Citizens. Along with the information within or the federal grant money earmarked for CWD activities.
FY26 – CWD federal grant number is F25AF01720 for FY26 = $4,523,612.72 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
Fetal Counts have never been shared by the Missouri Department of Conservation for the 13 Season of Authorization to Destroy Deer in the State of Missouri in the name of CWD.
Despite 38 different CWD Destroying Deer Areas of Missouri only 4 Counties show FETUS COLLECTION.
Filing an OPEN RECORDS REQUEST with the Missouri Department of Conservation. FETUS records for 2025 only.
I would like the summary results or the results from the 2025 MDC CWD WINTER OPERERATION PLAN Fetal Counts by Sex, Fetal Measurements for Female Deer, age class, regions and estimated of fetus age and conception date. Since it is logged in by computer data form it should not take a month to get information or cost anything.
Regions) (see Appendix C: White-Tailed Deer Reproductive Study for more details). Reason: information helps measure pregnancy rates and fecundity in age class and regions, and estimates fetus age and conception date.
Check all female deer for the following:
1. # of fetuses
2. Sex of the fetuses
3. Length of the fetuses
Record the total number of fetuses, their sex, and their length. If you checked and found no fetuses, be sure to record zero for the total. Do not record zero if you did not look for fetuses. Mark the “Reproductive Status Not Checked” checkbox on the datasheet if the deer was already field dressed by landowner or if you were not able to check status for some other reason.
Summary of the information
Current Post-Season Targeted Removal Efforts - Removal goal and progress for each core area 2025 total of 4,726 Deer Destroyed and 67 Lymph Node Positive Reported
These deer survived 11 different Deer Season in 2024 before being destroyed by the MDC in 2025 becoming an Unnatural Man Made EHD event having the same affects to population.
Authorization to Destroy takes place from January 15 to March 15. The use of bait and thermal scopes at night, cell game cameras, and blinds are used by MDC shooting teams and occurs both on private and public lands in Missouri.
Reported Fetus Summary Audrain, Callaway, Cole and Pulaski counties.
104 Doe Destroyed along with 153 Fetus. Grand Total of 257 deer if all fetuses were born. Making a bottle neck of genetic diversity from future.
Earliest a doe was destroyed was January 16, 2025 in Audrain County with 3 fetuses – 2 male, 1 female.
Latest a doe was destroyed was March 7, 2025 in Osage County with 2 fetuses – 1 male, 1 female
10 yearling does also destroyed – Note: MDC has noted that CWD is hard to test for in deer 18 months or on opening weekend of firearms season hunters drive from across county to bring in Button Bucks and Yearling Does only to not have it tested at check stations.
68 of the Fetuses would have been bucks.
73 of the Fetuses would have been does. Doe genetics also play a significant role in the overall health and antler potential of a whitetail deer herd. Does contribute half of the genetic material for antler growth in their offspring
12 unknown fetuses reported.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 11, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as December 10, 2024.
2025 - Audrain Goal 65 Killed 67 Lymph Node Positive 0
MDC Fetus Report shows 13 Does and 1 of those a yearling. 25 fetuses, 13 male, 10 female, 2 unknown.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 26, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as November 11, 2024.
Callaway County is not listed on MDC page for Post-Season Targeted Removal Efforts for 2025.
MDC Fetus Report shows 6 Does and 1 of those a yearling. 7 fetuses, 3 male, 4 female.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 25, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as November 16, 2024.
Cole County is not listed on MDC page for Post-Season Targeted Removal Efforts for 2025.
MDC Fetus Report shows 7 Does and 2 of those a yearling. 7 fetuses, 3 male, 4 female.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 29, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as November 7, 2024.
2025 - Osage1/Osage2 Goal 365 Killed 202 Lymph Node Positive 6
MDC Fetus Report shows 36 Does and 6 of those a yearling. 60 fetuses, 26 male, 24 female, and 10 unknown.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 11, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as December 10, 2024.
Main Conception dates of the start of October 27, 2024 thru November 16, 2024 for this time frame and the average date for conception November 5, 2024
Concentrated Conception dates were November 2, 3 and 4 of 2024.
2025 Pulaski Goal 115 Killed 96 Lymph Node Positive 0
MDC Fetus Report shows 42 Does and 10 of those a yearling. 54 fetuses, 23 male, 31 female.
The Earliest Conception Date is reported as October 16, 2024.
The Latest Conception Date is reported as November 29, 2024.
The maximum age per protocol in Operational Plan is 2 or greater. Is why 2 is mainly listed.
MDC CWD WINTER 2023 - OPERATIONAL PLAN - January 16, 2023 – March 15, 2023 – Total of 83 Pages of a 218 Grant Paper work for 2025.
MDC Shooting Team Protocol
Fetal Counts by Sex and Fetal Measurements for Female Deer (unless field dressed by landowner, Ozark and Southwest
Regions) (see Appendix C: White-Tailed Deer Reproductive Study for more details). Reason: information helps measure pregnancy rates and fecundity in age class and regions, and estimates fetus age and conception date. Check all female deer for the following: 1. # of fetuses 2. Sex of the fetuses 3. Length of the fetuses Record the total number of fetuses, their sex, and their length. If you checked and found no fetuses, be sure to record zero for the total. Do not record zero if you did not look for fetuses. Mark the “Reproductive Status Not Checked” checkbox on the datasheet if the deer was already field dressed by landowner or if you were not able to check status for some other reason.
Authorization to DESTROY DEER in Missouri for 2025
Open Records Request with filed February 15th, 2025 with the Missouri Department of Conservation.
Would like every Authorization to Destroy forms issued in 2025 in the state of Missouri.
First it took a month for a response.
Then it took another month they sent me a Invoice for $1,700.00 dollars for information.
So had to find a new legal pathway to get it. Because I can't afford to pay that. Already spent hundreds of dollars for information dealing with MDC.
August 22, 2025 I have copies of hundreds of Authorization to Destroy.
Stay tuned as it will take weeks to go thru.
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Authorization to DESTROY DEER on Public Land in Missouri for 2025
Authorization to Destroy 2025 - Missouri Department of Conservation Property Owner
First 8 pages – 80 Deer Quota to be Destroyed by MDC shooters from January 15th to March 15th, 2025 the use of bait and artificial light at night allowed. This is for Putnam 2 Core Area – Which makes ZERO sense because location are all across Missouri.
First Range, Township, Section – Take you to Lester R. Davis State Forest
So lots of different areas not named on Range, Township and Section that will take hours to find each one, but the ones that are named.
Meramec Fife Bottoms
Sand Ford Access
Long Range Conservation Area
Noser Mill Conservation Area
Mill Rock Access
Wenkel Ford Access
Meramec Conservation Area
Mayers Landing Access
Blue Springs Conservation Area
Reiker Ford Access
J. Thad Ray Memorial Wildlife Area
Steyermark Woods Conservation Area
Caldwell Memorial Wildlife Area
Island in Missouri River NE of Washington
Huzzah Conservation Area
Keysville Towersite
Port Hudson Lake
Hidden Hollow Conservation Area
Authorization to DESTROY DEER on Private Land in Missouri for 2025
FY2025 – Small sample of under 20 acres Authorization to Destroy Deer in Missouri from January 15th thru March 15th the use of bait and artificial light at night allowed.
Jefferson, Jasper, Macon, StoneTaney, FranklinSW, SteGenevie, LinnSouth, Oregon, JeffersonWest, Osage2, Osage1, Carroll, Dallas2, StClair, Pulaski core areas.
15 acres – 5 Deer
5 + 5 acres – 90 Deer
17 acres – 10 Deer
5 acres – 20 Deer
5 acres – 2 Deer
9 acres – 5 Deer
11 acres – 5 Deer
8 acres – 10 Deer
10 acres – 5 Deer
5 acres – 10 Deer
12 acres – 5 Deer
3 + 12 acres – 10 Deer
12 acres – 5 Deer
8 acres – 5 Deer
18 acres – 10 Deer
9 acres – 2 Deer
8 acres – 4 Deer
14 acres – 2 Deer
14 acres – 5 Deer
10 acres – 5 Deer
13 acres – 10 Deer
12 acres – 10 Deer
16 acres - 2 Deer
11 + 7 acres – 5 Deer
6 acres – 10 Deer
5 acres – 10 Deer
10 acres – 99 Deer
10 acres – 10 Deer
14 acres – 99 Deer
10 acres – 3 Deer
7 acres – 5 Deer
Authorization to DESTROY DEER
7 Acre Missouri Landowner is allowed to DESTROY 99 Missouri Deer in Franklin County.
I just listend to the most shocking telephone call.
These 7 acres are surrounded by large family farms with avid hunters.
I currently have a recording of the telephone call. This is from 2024. The form was sent and is dated January 10, 2024, from the Representative of the Missouri Department of Conservation right after the phone call. It is not the MDC employee fault, she is just a Naturalist and Educator. She was told by MDC leadership to call landowners. MDC leadership in Jefferson City is to blame for all of this!!!
Listen to the phone call you're self.
Deer Management is dead in Missouri and is replaced with Disease Management under the Missouri Department of Conservation.
If you forgot Missouri Landowners - If I have less than 20 acres, YOU DO NOT qualify for landowner deer permits! But if you have 5 acres or more you do qualify to destroy deer.
I would like to thank all the Missouri Landowners sharing the real stories on the ground. Because the information at meeting last night was complete opposite of the phone call I listened to.
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Blue Springs Conservation Area – January 20, 2025
Authorization to Destroy Deer – MDC Agent Shooters
https://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/places/blue-springs-creek-conservation-area
2.5 miles southwest of Bourbon, Missouri – Crawford County – WHY? Because the MDC map shows NO new CWD in that area! Plus the area was changed years ago to Archery Only and Muzzleloader which reduces deer harvest.
New area for 2025 will be Meramec Conservation Area - Crawford and Washington Counties in which destroy area spans.
Authorization to DESTROY DEER - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 16, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
Corn and blind was put out January 18, 2025 but apparently too cold to start destroying deer.
If you hunt this public land conservation area you might consider finding a different area next season.
Don’t worry you won’t see this video, the destroying of deer and the pickup load of deer. Don’t worry, you won’t see this in the Missouri Media or MDC FB page.
ONCE YOUR IN THE CORE CULLING AREA YOU ALWAYS IN THE CORE CULLING AREA
Do the deer wear a shock collars and can't cross the black or red lines on a map to eat the corn?
Do they place corn pile right near the edge of the blank or red lines on a map?
Exactly how far and will deer travel across the black or red lines lines on a map to get to corn?
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Deer Management has been replaced with Disease Management
Chairman of the Missouri Conservation Comission and MDC Deer Biologist have stated in Conservation Commission Meeting December of 2024.
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GET FIRST HAND ACCOUNT FROM MISSOURI LANDOWNER
October 22, 2024
EP233
Missouri Woods & Water Podcast, CWD from the perspective of a landowner. Robin Belzer, Jacob Swisegood, and Skylar Jorgensen all hunt and own property that has been in a CWD zone since it has hit our great state and they have an interesting take on what they have seen and experienced since they started dealing with it a decade ago.
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This show gives the listener a look into folks who have dealt with this since day one and their thoughts about it. Right, wrong, or indifferent, their opinions are ones which we think are important, as is everyone else's. Thanks for tuning in.
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HISTORY MATTERS ON THE AGE OF MISSOURI DEER
Majority of Deer will die of a arrow, bullet, predator or ehd before CWD is even detected.
December – 2024 - Quote from Missouri Conservation Commission Chair –
Deer Management and CWD Management have become pretty much the same thing for us here in Missouri –
December – 2024 Jason Isabelle from the Missouri Department of Conservation – Radio Interview.
We know young deer in particular can disperse a considerable distance from where they were born.
Another thing keep in mind too is there’s an incubation period with the disease where it gets CWD is going to take 18, typically 18 to 24 months before it starts to look sick.
Our population turns over pretty quick.
In areas that have a high infection rate you do start to see lots of fawns to test positive for the diesease
2015 - Jason Sumners Missouri Department of Conservation.
"We are definitely seeing the benefits as far as the age structure goes for our antlered buck population, but only to a certain degree," said Sumners.
In counties that are or were in APR, 1 1/2-year-old bucks made up just 25% of the deer harvest.
In counties where APR were NOT in place, 1 1/2-year-old bucks made up 50% to 55% of the deer harvest. Those numbers clearly show that APR is keeping more of our 1 1/2-year-old bucks alive to grow at least another set of antlers.
The "only to a certain degree" that Sumners referred to is the fact that it appears that hunters have shifted their focus from 1 1/2-year-old bucks to 2 1/2-year-old. They aren't letting the 2 1/2-year-old bucks live to that third year where significant antler size increase takes place.
"In our APR counties, 2 1/2-year-old bucks account for 40% to 50% of deer harvest while that same age-class only makes up 25% of the harvest in non-APR counties," Sumners said. "So you see how that has flip-flopped from before."
Furthermore, in APR counties, 3 1/2-year-old bucks account for 30% of the deer taken while in non-APR counties that age-class only accounts for 20% of the antlered harvest.
So, if you are looking to shoot a 2 1/2-year-old buck or older, it makes sense to start looking in one of the APR counties or in one that has just had the APR lifted.
2008 Public Meeting Presentation by the Missouri Department of Conservation
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Missouri Department of Conservation 2023 -2027
CWD Plan PDF
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Missouri Department of Conservation 2023 -2027
CWD Plan PDF
Missouri Department of Conservation 2012 CWD Plan PDF
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Missouri Department of Conservation 2012 CWD Plan
What does Authorization to Destory in February look like in Missouri.
CWD goverment bait and kill zone. MDC employees pouring out corn in CWD Zone, where it is banned for all landowners.
805 Tons of corn is the estimate MDC will use for deer and hogs.
February 2, 2022 – The Missouri Department of Conservation anticipates, but does not guarantee, the below estimated amounts of corn will be needed for each region.
Northwest Region – Estimated Amount 20 Tons of Corn
Northeast Region – Estimated Amount 30 Tons of Corn
St. Louis Region – Estimated Amount 25 Tons of Corn
Kansas City Region – Estimated Amount 50 Tons of Corn
Central Region – Estimated Amount – NONE needed
Southwest Region – Estimated Amount 100 Tons of Corn
Ozark Region – Estimated Amount 215 Tons of Corn
Southeast Region – Estimated Amount 415 Tons of Corn
MDC CWD WINTER 2023 - OPERATIONAL PLAN - January 16, 2023 – March 15, 2023 – Total of 83 Pages of a 218 Grant Paper work for 2025.
Highlights:
MDC Shooting Team Protocol
Corn Purchasing
A statewide bid was used to solicit responses for qualified vendors for corn purchases. ALL vendors who submit bids stating they can meet the minimum qualifications were awarded a “contract.” Simply being awarded a contract does not guarantee a vendor will be used to purchase corn for winter operations. It is each operation’s responsibility to utilize the lowest total cost vendor (combination of market price + price per bag overhead and mileage/staff time to transport).
The qualified vendor list ensures that each region will have a reasonable option for procuring corn, but it does not preclude regions from working with an area manager and utilizing corn grown on Conservation Areas. Storage and bagging fees for corn sourced from Conservation Areas and used for CWD targeted culling efforts can be charged to the targeted culling budget. If you have questions, please contact the Statewide IC.
Scientists believe CWD proteins (prions) likely spread between animals through body fluids like feces, saliva, blood, or urine, either through direct contact or INDIRECTLY through environmental contamination of SOIL, food or water.
2024 / 2025- Are you going to ban the movement of people. Sound familiar?
If YOU are in a CWD County in Missouri. You are no longer allowed to leave your County. LOL
Are you going to ban scrapes?
Are you going to ban rubs?
Are you going to ban bucks fighting?
Are you going to ban fawns nursing?
Are you going to ban deer grooming and eating ticks off each other?
Are you going to ban deer from eating in the same place they poop?
Are you going to ban small food plots?
Are you going to ban deer from orchards?
Are you going to ban deer peeing and drinking out of the same small wildlife waterhole at the same time?
Are you going to ban a herd animal from being a herd animal?
Are you going to ban buck dispersal in the fall?
Are you going to ban natural mineral licks?
Are you going to ban cattle farmer mineral salt blocks and molasses tubs?
Are you going to ban game and fish department from using 805 Tons of corn to be used to cull deer and for the 645 bait sites for feral hogs? Does MDC make sure NO deer eat corn when they are not on site and kill every deer that corn pile, they put out to cull deer.
Are you going to ban losing a deer or road hit deer? (Whole Carcass left in environment as a hot spot) and scavengers (Dogs, Coyotes, Bobcats, Crows, Birds of Prey, etc moving Gut Piles & Carcass on landscape)
Are you going to ban farmers from using Depredation Permits? (No record keeping, no testing, whole carcasses left in environment)
Are you going to ban City Deer? – (Concentration of live deer in protected environment so limited access to being tested.)
Banning anything is a feel good measure only, makes it appear the government is doing something.
The Missouri Department of Conservation had their special public meeting about Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD).
The meeting was on Thursday, Janaury 9th, 2025 in Perryville, Missouri at the Perry Park Center in the Theater.
It began at 6:00 p.m. with a presentation by MDC staff
Because of the length and upload limits and speeds I have, the presentation is broken up into 3 segments nothing has been taken out or added.
Really does not matter if you believe in CWD or not - But one thing is real, the regulations are REAL.
Perry County, Missouri CWD Meeting
Presentation by the Missouri Department of Conservation staff covering Ste. Genevieve and Perry County Areas.
33 Minutes on January 9, 2025 - You may have to max out volume be able to listen clearly.
Segment 1
Segment 2
Segment 3
How many Necrospy of Deer in Missouri are done on OPENING WEEKEND OF Firearms Season?
Perry County CWD Meeting – Question by the Public and Answers by the Missouri the Missouri Department of Conservation Staff.
38 Minutes - January 9, 2025
Attendance was low to the two previous meetings I have attended in Perry County but also lots of people without power from Ice Storm
HMMM – Two different answers to the same question.
We don’t get any money to my knowledge.
We get reimbursed 75% for some of our activities and supplies. 25% comes out of MDC budget.
If EHD hits an area we will still do culling. YES!
It's a Mandatory Check NOT a mandatory sampling.
Eventually Missouri will be Statewide CWD Zone.
Segment 1
Segment 2
Segment 3
Segment 4
Questions they Missouri Department of Conservation does not like to answer.
The number 1 question you should ask is what your population’s goal per square mile is after culling.
They don't want to say and unless you push the matter.
In Perry County landowners during the 2nd CWD meeting pushed a supervisor to answer the question. He finally said 10 deer per square mile. 30-35 per square mile, considered healthy by current standards but of course not all deer habitat is equal.
When was the last time MDC did a population survey in that area?
If you keep culling year after year like the rest of the counties what will be the ultimate goal of deer per square miles.
Few additional question for you to consider asking.
What is the currently population per square mile of deer in core area?
What is the final goal of population of deer per square mile of authorization to destroy end on March 15, 2025?
Latest article in St. Louis NBC 5 Weekend Edition – Quote: The Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) estimates that a "healthy" deer population is around 20 or fewer deer per square mile. That would take it back to Pre 1999 Deer Population Number for Missouri. AKA - 1 deer per 32 acres.
Once I get the Authorization to Destroy Missouri Deer on my property will MDC provide the corn?
Say I have health, family or work issues and I cannot get out to destroy deer on my land after you authorized me to. Any Consequences?
Why do you do destroy deer in the name of CWD after EHD has hit different counties?
Why did you add additional antlerless permits and 3 extra seasons for antlerless deer which includes CWD season during EHD out breaks across Missouri?
Why did you not put out an EHD map for 2024? Why is that not figured into your destroying deer efforts?
MDC says CWD is the biggest threat, but more deer die from EHD than CWD.
EHD is the most significant, widespread, viral disease of white-tailed deer in the US. By multiple University, Scientific Organizations and Game and Fish Departments which is stated on there websites.
It’s my understanding MDC is getting reimbursed 75% for Supplies and Activities with CWD from the federal Government! Is that correct and what are the Activities you’re getting reimbursed for.
Why does MDC say it’s a mandatory sampling when it’s really a mandatory check during opening weekend. Because if I have a buck or ANY deer for that matter and going to take it to taxidermist you don’t TEST, if I tell the taxidermist or meat processor, I don’t want deer tested they can’t either so. It’s not mandatory sampling, why not call it that, it’s a check. Like the old check stations.
MDC says the prevalence rate is higher in bucks, but you didn’t add a velvet season before bucks disperse but instead 3 extra season to kill antlerless more antlerless season.
Are you trying to lower the overall deer population in the state of Missouri?
You say CWD is hard to test for in deer 18 months or less but on opening weekend you have hunters drive from all across county to bring in Button Bucks and Yearling Does only to not have it tested at check stations. Why haven’t you made that public beforehand?
There are some counties within CWD zone and only certain ones and some that have ZERO CWD in it must check deer in on Opening Weekend while others in CWD zone do not. WHY?
Do you consider deer management over in Missouri and MDC only practices deer disease management.?
Missouri by what it looks like will have 80 counties out of 114 counties in CWD zone. Why not make it statewide if it’s the most significant disease in Missouri? Or are you just treating the landowners and hunters in Missouri like frogs in Boiling water.
When will Missouri have CWD zone statewide.
When will we get to See the 10-year management plan for Deer in Missouri that the Conservation Commission gets to see this month?
Do you know a farmer trying to protect his crops from deer? Do they use depredations permits from the MDC?
Question you might Missouri Department of Conservation in the CWD Meeting.
1. How many of the deer are tested for CWD when depredations permits are used by landowners to protect crops?
2. How many deer have been killed using depredation permits?
3. If depredation permits are used in core cwd areas, does MDC count that towards quota of the deer killed in area.
4. What are the requirements for disposing of whole deer that are killed using depredation permits to prevent the spread of CWD?
or are they just allowed to be savaged on which in some research says that from crows to coyotes is one method of spread.
If you wonder why the regulations are not statewide - The "frog in boiling water" is a metaphor that describes how people may not notice or react to threats that arise gradually over time. The story goes that if a frog is suddenly placed in boiling water, it will jump out to escape. However, if a frog is placed in tepid water and the temperature is gradually increased, the frog will not notice the danger and will eventually boil to death.
The story is often used as a metaphor to illustrate how people may accept things that slowly and steadily take control of their lives. It can be applied to Missouri disease management.
It’s up to the individual Missouri landowners to manage their properties and be the real conservationists.
THE TRUTH IN ADVERISTING
NO LAW OR REGULATIONS - That says you have to give a SAMPLE of your DEER or TESTING!
They call opening weekend – Mandatory Sampling – That is a lie, There is no regulation or law that requires a sample – It should be called Mandatory Check!
Why are they misinforming the public.
1. EVERY deer you kill on the first Sat and Sun of rifle season that you take to the check station a fawn, button, doe, spike, 3,4,5,6,7 or 8 pointers to 30 point buck the first words out of your mouth is you are going to have it mounted.
You will get a paper that says deer checked but not tested. There is no law that says you can’t change your mind on having it mounted once you leave.
2. If you take a deer to a deer processor (they are making money sending in samples, paid for by taxpayers), either tell the deer processor that you don’t want your deer tested. If your deer processor requires it, then find a new one. Quarter your deer cost a lot less. Or remove the head with more than 6 inches of neck removed before you take it in.
3. If you take your deer to a taxidermist (they are making money sending in samples, paid for by taxpayers) you also tell them that you don’t want your deer tested. If your taxidermist requires it, then find a different taxidermist or cape your deer all the way to the head.
3a. If a taxidermist send in a sample without your knowledge his business can be held liable for sending in a sample without your permission. Lawsuit is just waiting to happen and MDC will throw the taxidermist under the bus and won’t help him out.
4. Jefferson City will put neighbor against neighbor, landowner against landowner, and hunter against hunter. If you don’t give them permission to come on to your property for CULLING - reduction of a wild animal population by selective slaughter. For CULLING - the action of killing inferior animals to be slaughtered. They send letters to all your neighbors. They will offer 10 extra tags to be filled and tested. Remember DEER MANAGEMENT has NO place in DISEASE MANAGEMENT!
5. If you have under 20 acres you cannot get a landowners deer but if you have 5 acres they will give you the Authorization to Destory and and allow you to use corn and shoot with spot lights and thermals from Jan 15 to March 15.
Top 100 things that kill whitetail deer. Fawns, Bucks and Does –
1. Hunters
2. Predators – Wolves, Bears, Mountain Lions, Coyotes, Bobcats, etc.
3. Vehicles
4. EHD – Which could be combined with parasites
5. Game and Fish Departments employee’s culling deer or Poaching – same difference.
6. Severe Weather – Starvation because of hard winters, hurricanes, droughts, etc.
7. Injuries – from fighting, broken legs or abscess
8. Parasites – ticks, worms, etc.
9. Farming
10. Fences
11. Thru 99. – Various scenarios
100. CWD the least chance. – Name a county in Missouri a deer has died of CWD?
Share with friends, family, neighbors, landowners and deer hunters in Missouri - Ask them why MDC has never shared photos.
CWD will decline deer and elk populations statewide.
Interesting, something doesn’t add up, if all this is true how can it be possible.
Wind Cave National Park is 44 square miles and is high fenced around the perimeter.
CWD was detected at Wind Cave National Park in 1997….28 years ago.
Hunting is not allowed in Wind Cave.
Wolves are not in Wind Cave.
The elk live together
They are living to their life expectancy which is a much higher risk of CWD.
Notice in the article they also say this is about sustainability of the food…In other words the carrying capacity is to high or they would starve to death in the winter. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH CWD CONTROL.
So after almost 30 years of having CWD, they are having to remove elk every single year so they do not starve to death and they call it “CWD control”
CWD will decline deer and elk populations statewide.
So how has CWD not negatively impacted this population in three decades, to the point they must kill them off to keep them from starving to death.
The park biologist said the CWD rate is 3% and this is after three decades. So, when they kill the 30 off, maybe 1 will have it. Maybe. IT HAS GROWN TO THAT IN THREE DECADES OF ELK THAT SOCIALIZE TOGETHER EVERY DAY.
https://www.keloland.com/keloland-com-original/elk-herd-in-wind-cave-to-be-culled-to-fight-disease/
Missouri Conservation Commission December 2024 Meeting Tentative Agenda
Friday, Dec. 13, 8:30 a.m. – Regular Open Meeting
You can watch meeting in Full
vimeo.com/showcase/6846961?video=1033481930
I will repeat – Deer Management is dead in Missouri and is replaced with Disease Management statewide under Missouri Department of Conservation.
Get it straight from the Chairman of the Missouri Conservation Comission and MDC Deer Biologist.
If you forgot Missouri Landowners - If I have less than 20 acres, YOU DO NOT qualify for landowner deer permits! But if you have 5 acres or more you do qualify to destroy deer.
Destroying Deer VS Genetic Diversity VS Hunting Season VS Genetic Diversity – Long Post
People say that shooting a doe in Normal hunting season from October, November or December is the same as Shooting a doe from January thru March when deer are destroyed in one of the 131 and counting areas in 2025 in the name of Disease management.
My opinion it is NOT! The most important part of Deer Management is half and inch of pulling the trigger or not pulling trigger because YOU and ONLY YOU know your local deer population.
Disease management is different because it does not matter what the population is high or low or if EHD has it an area they are going to destroy deer in those areas. INSANE cycle! Matter of FACT if deer population is low and hunters don’t kill enough per MDC, MDC will increase the number of deer to destroy so as the population lowers the destroy number will increase.
Do you Agree or Disagree
Missouri Department of Conservation has been testing deer since 2002 and destroying deer since 2013. MDC has spent over 4 million dollars on CWD.
Has the Missouri Department of Conservation done its due diligence; money spent on research on the effect of destroying deer in concentrated areas destroying genetic diversity in Missouri Whitetail in those areas?
1. The large scale and non-discriminate destroying of deer within a specific region factually decreases genetic variability and diversity within the remaining herd of that specific region. These destruction practices not only decrease genetic diversity in the deer herd of that region but also halt the known processes of genetic and natural adaptation as well as herd immunity building processes.
2. When many deer are removed from area, the remaining population has fewer individuals carrying different genetic traits, leading to a smaller gene pool.
3. In smaller populations, random fluctuations in gene frequencies (genetic drift) become more pronounced, further reducing genetic diversity
4. With a smaller gene pool, the likelihood of individuals mating with close relatives increases, leading to inbreeding and potential negative genetic consequences
5. Isolated deer populations due to habitat loss and destroying local population are more susceptible to genetic decline
6. Monitoring deer populations and implementing strategies to protect genetic diversity are crucial for maintaining healthy ecosystems, that is
Do normal hunting season infer with deer genetic diversity
1. Properly managed hunting seasons help maintain healthy deer populations, which is crucial for maintaining genetic diversity.
2. Studies have shown that when comparing hunted and unhunted deer populations, no significant difference in genetic diversity was observed.
3. Research, a normal hunting season for deer does not typically have a significant negative impact on genetic diversity, as most hunting regulations are designed to target specific age or sex groups, preventing excessive selective pressure that could drastically alter the gene pool; however, poorly managed hunting practices could potentially affect diversity in extreme cases.
4. If a population is destroyed without proper management, it could lead to a reduction in genetic diversity due to a smaller breeding pool
That's not an opinion; genetic adaptation is proven as is herd immunity. Random and extensive eradication defeats or slows both natural selection and genetic adaptability.
Thus, why when a population of any species declines there are the notated terms such as threatened, endangered, critically endangered vulnerable and point of no return.
Any Biologist knows this if they are worth a grain of salt. It's on purpose.
The agencies most certainly know that they are greatly decreasing genetic diversity with the large-scale eradication of deer herds. It's been known for years by Biologist and Geneticist alike, that for a healthy population to exist long term, that there must first be genetic variability within the species.
By killing off large portions of a population you decrease genetic diversity. Genetic diversity and variability are the keystone elements to genetic adaptability, herd immunity and natural selection. The agencies and their Biologist would be lying if they denied such knowledge. Doing such decreases the vigor of the herd and sets the herd up for catastrophic losses.
In the graphic you will see that the orange, blue, purple and red alleles have been removed by an "EVENT". In the case of CWD, the "EVENT" is NOT deer dying by CWD. BUT agencies are destroying deer!
Further, in the depiction shown below it is highly plausible that any of the lost alleles could contain genetic coding for CWD resistance (myelin sheath repair), EHD resistance, fat storage and metabolism, immune system controls or even milk production or instinctual survival traits, predator avoidance, etc.
To naturally rebuild genetic diversity, both time and the free interspersion of animals from area A to area B are both required. Due to development such as highways and urban sprawl natural interspersion will obviously be hampered. The only other route for success is to capture individuals from point A and point B and to release them to their opposing range. The opposite of protocols of CWD.
These Biologist know this, put that question to them.
This week with a joined by lifelong whitetail fanatic Doug Roberts, to discuss what he has learned through trials and errors to help Gamekeepers can grow healthier whitetails. Doug has some incredible insight into what it takes to grow a big whitetail and he surprised us with some of his answers. He also explained to us what he knew about the Mitch Rompola buck that was killed in Michigan back in 1998. It was said to be the largest typical ever killed and then faded from view just a quick. It’s a fascinating story. Last but not, he least he explains some hopeful news about ongoing research that has determined some deer could possibly have a gene making them resistant to CWD. As you can imagine, we ask a lot of questions. Listen, Learn and Enjoy.
Is killing deer blindly in the name of science, actually hurting the Missouri Deer herd?
Will Missouri Department of Conservation start genetic testing whitetail deer for “GG” genetic markers which is highly susceptible to CWD and “SS” genetic markers which are more resistant to CWD?
Will Missouri Department of just kill off deer herd and wipe out deer that have “SS” genetic markers that are more resistant to CWD and could actually slow the spread of CWD?
Will Missouri Department of Conservation use federal CWD money to work with Deer Farm Industry to introduce deer with “SS” genetic markers into area with CWD core areas?
Mossy Oak Game Keepers - EP:223 | A Deer Discussion from A Different Perspective - Apr 23, 2024
CWD start around the 45 minute 10 second mark.
But then we got Dr. Haley and Dr. Christopher Seabury involved.
Dr. Haley literally went into the genetic strain in a white-tailed deer and found seven markers that he felt identified some level of resistance of catching CWD.
Once we started to test some of the deer in the what the farming industry, we found that five of those held very, very true.
“GG” is highly susceptible, as we now know, and “SS” are the most resistant. You have K, you have H. so that was the first initial.
So, some of us said, well, let's start breeding. Can we breed to start producing what he thinks is more resistant animals?
That doesn't mean they can't get CWD. What it means is if we put, “SS” deer in, in an environment that's contaminated, they can live in that environment and not get infected for a longer period than what a “GG” animal can.
We now know that an “GG” animal in an infected environment will be infected within six months or less. So, if I don't want to have an infection coming out of my farm, I don't want any “GG” on my farm. I want everything but that.
Now we are bringing in Dr. Christopher Seabury.
Dr. Christopher Seabury was the one when scrapie was very rampant in sheep. They brought him in, and he did the same thing. He looked at the genetic markers of all the sheep. It's 251,000 markers of sheep.
He identified them and was able to number them and go, okay, this one falls on this line and it's more susceptible than the other one.
So, we're looking for negative numbers. Zeros in the middle if you're to the right and the more positive the further right you go the more susceptible all the animal is to food or scrapie and sheep.
In 15 years, by following his guidelines and breeding the ones that show you no resistance, they eliminated scrapie and sheep.
Literally. In 15 years, scrapie did not exist just by following those markers. So, we went to him and said, can you do the same thing with the white-tailed deer?
He said, well, yeah, okay. Well, for us, he did it with 51,000 markers. We couldn't afford 251,000, so he did 51,000. But that's a lot more than five and so what his what his numerical scale has done has validated that the S's seem to be the most resistant.
Now that we're getting enough animals into the system, we're starting to realize that you can even have a GS. But they might have a negative number, which is the best resistance you can get, so we now want to go to the negative numbers to the left of zero and start pushing all our animals.
That way. You have to understand, in the deer farming industry, most of the animals on most farms are either hunted, culled, harvested one way or the other, probably by the time they're 7 or 8 years old. So if we can get animals that have resistance for at least 7 to 10 years, we don't have to worry about CWD in the deer farming industry anymore.
So, it's, it's exciting times our farm now, all the animals in our breeding program, have the resistant markers in them at some level, and we're just continuing to push those numbers further to the left with higher negative numbers.
So, when you're looking at introducing new deer into your farm, you just say, hey, I want to be sure that's an S or an SG. And well, do you have a genetic test that proves that?
So, we NADR which is North American deer registry, which was created a number of years ago.
We not only do the parentage of all our animals, but we also do the genetic testing for resistance to.
So, every single animal on my farm is identifiable from generations back, and for a resistance to now. My farm is unique because we have the company, so we have had a closed herd for, I think, 17 years now.
e've never brought a live deer in. We won't do that. We can change our genetics through semen. We can purchase semen, straws or embryos and actually bring that in and change the whole genetic structure of the farm.
How can that be applied to wild deer herds? Do you see, like a path or a direction that this could go and maybe branch off in and help the wild herd?
Well, I can like Michigan right now. Michigan the DNR has finally started to test deer in the wild by county.
What we're trying to find out and see is, are there pockets of animals that have some level of resistance and are there pockets of highly susceptible “GG” animals we call them.
Now, I will tell you this. We've already found out that the majority of deer up in Michigan. They're “GG” highly susceptible.
What we're also finding, though, is that they almost seem to be like dogs. They almost seem to be like the mut. They have a little bit of everything, so they're super strong. We're finding a lot of the “SS”, “KS”, “HS”, “HK” they're almost like a purebred, where they may have a slight weakness in, and they're a little more susceptible to something of dying. It's just it's a hunch right now, but we're looking into it.
But if we can find areas of resistance within the wild deer herd, would it not make sense to let that group multiply? In other words, don't do the doe tags, let does multiply as fast as you can.
But if you find this acceptable area, cull more of them out of that area. Create what we call the vacuum and let the, you know, resistant ones move over in that area.
A lot of people say it just isn't possible. I'm kind of optimistic.
I think it can be. It’s going to take much, much longer in the wild.
Here's the other option is you start wiping out the “GG” and you start taking some of the animals from the deer farm industry and planting them in the wild that we know have resistance and letting them breed and you're going to breed resistance into it.
I can tell you that's not going to go over well in most agency mostly like. What I see is a glimmer of hope in all the darkness.
Oklahoma Plans to Combat CWD by Releasing Captive-Bred Deer into the Wild
www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/oklahoma-cwd-genetic-improvement-law/
Ever since I read a research paper almost a decade ago, talking about Classical Scrapie in Sheep - Short story sheep got it they killed them all completely cleaned facility and left it sit for years. Then they were repopulated with sheep that had zero scrapie and they all ended up with disease.
I always thought it was a huge connection between sheep and deer at research facility. But that's just my thoughts, no proof.
Then I saw this story tonight, wanted to bring it back to light.
https://apnews.com/article/sheep-solar-texas-climate-333e72167bcf24047257e1be352ce1a9
I can't believe I am the only one that thinks this, and no one has done deep dive.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4672192/
Do Landowners have the right ot know?
It should be legal obligation of the Missouri department of Conservation to make public and to notify landowners in area that MDC has Authorized to destroy deer is taking place!
WHY! Because ONLY landowners can decide what the status of the deer population for that year. Not someone in Jefferson City.
1. If you’re practicing Deer Management on your property and have spent hundreds to thousands of dollars to improve habitat, and quality of deer on your property.
2. If you passed a little spike or 4-point buck to allow it to get older.
3. Passing doe because your population is lower or your population is high, and you shoot several does.
4. Even if it’s brown it’s down.
5. Your kid the next generation of hunters is finally old enough to hunt for the first time next season.
Only YOU’RE not aware the landowner ½ to 5 miles away is culling deer and completely changes your future season, taking away both opportunities and recruitment of future generations.
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Missouri landowners firsthand account for CWD in Area!
Missouri Landowner
Why don’t you see this in the Missouri Media or from MDC.
Landowner: ONE
The first case in Missouri that started this whole thing is 5 miles from where I hunt been dealing with this since day one, found in a high fence deer farm they rolled in and made the feller kill every deer he owned it’s just overgrown high fence now.
Since it was first found, other than a couple of small bouts with EHD, we have never found a single dead deer.
We have conservation land that borders our property that conservation uses to cull deer very heavily and unfortunately there are a couple of farmers in the area that are farmers first and take full advantage of the culling it takes place every year and has since the first year.
I work very closely with the neighbors between 4 farms. There is roughly 2500 acres of land this is just a rough guess no science behind it but we have figured the population is down more than 50% with the biggest chunk of that being in the last 4-6 years.
The last 3 yrs there hasn't been a 5 yr old or older buck seen and this is in an area that used to have 5-7 yr old 160-180" class deer in
We live 4 hrs. away from our property and I have traveled on that trip numerous times and in the last 2-3 yrs the number of deer lying on the side of the highway is few and far between 12 yrs ago you couldn't drive a mile without seeing one that had been hit.
My Opinion.
It does not matter if you believe if CWD is REAL! What is real are the current regulations and activities by the Missouri Department of Conservation and other landowners.
If you passed a buck to get older or passing doe because your population is lower or your population is high, and you shoot several does and even if it’s brown it’s down or your kid is finally old enough to hunt for the first time next season.
Only YOU’RE not aware the landowner ½ to 5 miles away is culling deer and completely changes your future season.
So should it be legal obligation of the MDC to tell landowners in area to say destroying deer is taking place?
MISSOURI LANDOWNER
Landowner TWO
No. 2 – Example No. 2
Maybe you should listen to Ste. Genevieve Resident who know goes out of state to hunt because where he used to hunt in Ste. Genevive no deer left, so he goes to Kansas for 5 days and hunt.
MISSOURI NON- RESIDENT HUNTER
No. 3. Example from Non-Resident Hunter.
I have hunted North MO for over 15 years. The last lease I had we paid 8k and had very good deer. After two years we saw very few deer. Come to find out MDC poured out corn and shot the area deer. A friend of mine owned 500 acres and they wanted to shoot on his farm. He said no and they went to his neighbor who had 50 acres. They shot 268 deer.
I don't lease land anymore in MO. I hope it's a class action lawsuit against MDC over mishandling wildlife. It's insane
FYI 129 areas and counting will be Authorized to DESTROY DEER - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 15, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
Just 1 area contained 180 landowners with 5 acres or more.
MISSOURI PUBLIC LAND HUNTER
Resident Public Hunter – When common Sense and Deer Management is replace with Disease Management and the lack of common Sense.
Blue Springs Conservation Area changed to a muzzle loader and archery only which reduces harvest numbers and increase population, like 8 years ago.
Since then, we finally started to see decent deer numbers and now they are just going to with Thermals over corn at night January thru March. I’m sick to my stomach. I guess my 14-year-old son should take up another hobby because he absolutely loves hunting and now there will be hardly anything to hunt. We used to hunt conversation land in northern Missouri, but they destroyed the population and quality deer there also.
Missouri Absentee Landowner
MISSOURI DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION SHOOTING TEAMS.
MDC CWD WINTER 2023 - OPERATIONAL PLAN - January 16, 2023 – March 15, 2023
Highlights:
• January 16th and March 15th, 2023. Early baiting may begin NO SOONER than December 27, 2022.
MDC Shooting Teams
To standardize expectations and effort of staff, the following shooting schedule will be used by Department staff: Shooting stints will involve three (3) consecutive nights of shooting. Shooting will be conducted with two (2) stints per week. One stint will run Monday-Wednesday One stint will run Thursday-Saturday There will be no shooting by Department staff on Sunday Shooting will conclude each evening by 10 pm CST. Staff may request approval from the Statewide IC to temporarily shoot different hours/days. Shooting team members may include the following, provided they meet the above requirements:
Exempt and non-exempt salaried employees. Non-exempt staff must follow existing overtime policies (including having supervisor approval for all overtime worked). Hourly employees Time coded to existing hourly position, not CWD budget Conservation Service Volunteers/Protection Volunteers (following current volunteer policy). USDA Wildlife Services staff Additional recommended criteria for shooting team members can be found in Appendix F.
Additionally, when selecting shooting team members, consider additional suggested criteria as outlined in the MDC Shooting Team Protocol (Appendix F).
A list of individuals certified to be shooting team members for the current season can be found on SharePoint after all trainings have been held or by Jan 15.
Highlights:
MDC Shooting Team Protocol
General Budget
Supplies and expenses:
The following should not be coded to the Science Branch CWD targeted culling budget: Travel Expenses: Travel expenses should be coded as regular, branch in-state travel. There is NO Department travel account for winter targeted culling (unlike mandatory sampling).
Routine sampling supplies (otherwise provided by the CWD Program in sampling kits) Ammunition (unless approved by the Statewide IC; lead-free ammunition is purchased in bulk). AA batteries (purchased in bulk) Ear tags (purchased in bulk) Equipment of any kind, including under threshold equipment, unless pre-approval is granted by the Statewide IC. Example of items that may be purchased: blinds, chairs, dumpster/disposal, spotlights, etc. If a region expects to spend greater than their allocated budget on expenses, notify the Statewide IC before exceeding their limit.
Corn invoices and storage/bagging fees for corn sourced from MDC areas should be coded to WPI 452 and not regional allocations.
January 26, 2025 - Missouri Absentee Landowner and Missouri Department of Conservation.
First Hand Account – This 172 acre landowner that has never been to property, does not hunt property, for that matter does not even hunt, also does not live in the state or ever meet the neighboring landowners.
They get a letter about CWD in the area, that is going to destroy every deer in the state of Missouri and MDC will do everything for you and it won’t cost you a dime and they will donate all the meat to Share the Harvest.
WOW – SIGN ME UP!! I can save the deer and feed the people that need it.
So Authorization to DESTROY DEER with the help of MDC Game Warden Shooters - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 16, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
How many deer have been destroyed on this property will never be known by the 6 different attached neighboring landowners and no telling about how far these deer traveled to eat at this corn pile during the extreme cold and snow.
The opportunity and recruitment are the NO. 1 Priorities for MDC.
But instead opportunity, time, money, effort and recruitment stolen from neighbors and will be for years to come.
1. A neighboring first time Youth Season hunter opportunity to fill a tag next season and maybe multiple seasons if he keeps hunting, so much for opportunity and recruitment.
2. A neighboring hunter that passed a young buck hoping to the buck matures and practices deer management, that has been preached to him for his entire life. That opportunity is now gone be lucky to ever see the same buck next season or season to follow.
3. A neighboring hunter that is just a meat hunter wondering why the population keeps going down and takes longer to fill his freezer for his family.
4. The older hunter does not get around as good as he used to. But I still love to hunt deer. Gets blind and sits as long as his older body allows. The population is half of what it was, so he sees nothing. Does it become worth it.
MDC pours out the Taxpayers corn out in Macon County after landowners have had a corn and minerals ban for 12 or 13 years in this county.
The first county in Missouri deer was destroyed in the name of Disease Management 12 or 13 years ago and every year since.
MDC killed deer in a 6-mile radius of this farm 12 or 13 years ago.
The deer population on this property is lower. Neighboring landowner from out of state has sold all his hunting ground due to low deer population. It is not what it was when he first bought the property across the road from this place.
Now you read Firsthand Account from multiple landowners, nonresident landowners, public land hunters all telling the same story. ONE thing in common MDC is going to do what they want.
Long Ridge Conservation Area - Franklin County -
5 years of Authorization to DESTROY DEER - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 16, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
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Emergency - Noser Mill Conservation Area
Area Closed 2PM - 4AM Monday thru Saturday for CWD Management Activities. The area is open daily before 2PM and all day on Sunday during this time.
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No CWD deer have ever been found on Noser Mill Conservation Area, or any private land directly connected to Noser Mill Conservation Area. But it is included in the CWD Core Killing Zone.
Beaufort Mo. – January 30, 2025 MDC staff picking up some kind of grain or corn in bulk bags from Feed Store more than likely headed to Noser Mill CA for CWD destroy deer methods, maybe they are planting food plots on the Noser Mill Conservation Area for the benefit of wildlife.
Maybe someone could go out to Noser Mill Conservation Area before 2pm take some photos of Blind, Cell Game Camera, Corn Pile and Blood in the Mud.
If you Hunt Noser Mill Conservation Area – You might consider finding a different public land area to hunt.
Authorization to DESTROY DEER to MDC Agents, USDA-APHIS or Wildlife Contractors - the use of bait, artificial light at night, and night vision/thermal imagery equipment is allowed January 16, 2025, thru March 15, 2025.
Noser Mill Conservation Area.
PER MDC - The following activities are prohibited on department areas and may not be authorized by a special use permit:
5. Placing of grain, salt products, minerals, and other consumable products on land
6. Placing or using trail or game cameras or other similar devices
Noser Mill Conservation Area Hunting Deer
Archery Methods Only
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Only Great Deer Hunting Happens at Night in Missouri.
7:30 p.m. – February 6, 2025 – Best Deer Season in Missouri is happening now Meramec State Park. Three trucks and trailers. Franklin County, Missouri
This is the 3rd public area in Franklin County they are destorying deer over corn at night.
Lone Ridge Conservation Area.
Noser Mill Conservation Area.
Meramec State Park.
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CWD Kool aid is a bad mix. Headlines over the past 8 years.
No. 1 - 2017 the Alliance for Public Wildlife stated that 7,000 to 15,000 animals with CWD are consumed annually, a number that may increase by 20% each year.
If that’s correct. In 2025, that would be 30,000 to 64,000 animals with CWD consumed.
But don’t stop. Hunters have now gut over 6 million deer a year, Taxidermist handling and European skulls cleaned along with meat processors. The number of direct contact yearly is astronomical and unknown.
No. 2 - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention No Humans have gotten CWD
No. 3 - World Health Organization – States we should keep prions out of the human food chain.
No. 4 Veterinarian CWD is a Time Bomb vs Veterinarian CWD Fear of is overblown.
No. 5. U.S. declares State of Emergency dealing with CWD vs Washington D.C. Politicians say it’s a state problem.
No. 6 Washington D.C. Politicians pass Omnibus Bill that now funds state with CWD.
No. 7 Deer Biologist Great Concern over CWD vs Deer Biologist CWD Fear is overblown.
No. 8 Game and Fish Departments in Different states allows baiting, minerals, Does not allow, part of the state, all of the state, hunting over, not hunting over, before and after CWD in state.
No. 9 Game and Fish Departments and USDA-APHIS use 100’s of tons of bait to cull deer and trap feral hogs in states with CWD year-round.
No. 10 - Game & Fish Departments - Ban Importation Live Deer Ban Deer Urine because of CWD vs Game & Fish Department NO Bans Importation Live Deer and NO Bans Deer Urine.
No. 11 - Conservation Groups agrees with the direction of the Game and Fish Departments take with CWD vs Conservation Groups does NOT completely agree with the direction of the Game and Fish Departments on CWD.
No. 12 - Anit Hunters Animals are God Creatures and Anit Hunters CWD is the way to stop hunting.
COUNTRY CLUB CONSERVATION
You cannot pick up a phone and call your commissioner to tell, that is a joke. You can fill out a form online and that is it. In 20 years only 1 has ever replied. They don’t even hold meetings in all the regions or meet with the public in those regions.
Been to 100's conservationist events for over 35 years in Southeast Missouri, he has not been to one I was at. ROFLMAO Bedell and Orscheln both appointed because of Money nothing less.
I have worked with 35 states’ game and fish departments, and they do not envy MDC, they envy the 1/8 sales tax money in the multi millions in the budget MDC has. TEXAS, FLORIDA, AND CALIFORNIA have a better big mouth bass fishing program in the Game and Fish Departments, and they will tell you that. Etc. Etc. Etc.
June of 2019 – Conservation Commission Meeting
The Conservation Commission is so limited and small when the last two commissioner left June of 2019 - Barry Orscheln and Don Bedell had to nominate each other to serve as Chairman and the other to serve as Vice Chair and Secretary then they both voted on it.
Per the MDC - The Missouri Department of Conservation (MDC) administers hundreds of parcels of land in all counties of the state. ... The department has divided the counties of the state into eight administrative regions for the purpose of managing these lands and providing conservation services to the citizens of the state.
Why would you not have a Conservation Commissioner that represents the Missouri Citizens and Landowners for each of those Eight Administrative Regions?
• Per the MDC - (New position created) December of 2019 – MDC eight regions across the state and each region will be led by a regional administrator. All eight regional administrators report directly to the assistant deputy of resource management in Jefferson City to ensure regional operations also remain coordinated at the statewide level. Regional administrators will transition into their new role in December with the final organizational roadmap completed by July 1, 2020.
Why would you not have a Conservation Commissioner that represents the Missouri Citizens and Landowners for each of those Eight Administrative Regions?
• Per the MDC - These regional changes are part of the Department’s larger organizational roadmap for the future to build on the success we’ve had over the last 80 years in delivering on our conservation priorities and serving the citizens of Missouri,” says MDC Director Sara Parker Pauley. “We also need to be able to adapt as quickly as the world is changing around us, including successfully tackling increasing natural-resource challenges and a decreasing connection to nature by people of all ages.”
Why would you not have a Conservation Commissioner that represents the Missouri Citizens and
Landowners able that to adapt quickly to each region changes, including successfully tackling the increasing natural-resource challenges that only exist in that region and be able to connect to citizens for each of all ages those Eight Administrative Regions?
Northwest, Northeast, Kansas City, Central, Saint Louis, Southwest, Ozark, Southeast
Each of these regions contain wildlife and habitats, that may or may not exist in other regions that the citizens of Missouri live with every day.
Nutria Rats in Southeast Region,
Elk in the Ozark and Southeast Regions.
Wild Horses Ozark Region
Wild Hogs Southern Missouri
Black Bears Southern Missouri
Mule Deer Northeast Region,
High Density of Whitetails in Northern Missouri
Low Density of Wild Turkeys in Southern Missouri
Gray Wolf coming from particularly Minnesota, Wisconsin, or Michigan.
Mountain Lion Sightings in Ozark and Southeast Regions
Armadillo population explosion throughout Southern Missouri Expanding North
Swamp Rabbit decline in Southeast Region
Grouse in the East-Central Regions of Missouri
Prairies of Northern Missouri and the Million of acres of Forest in Southern Missouri
Northwest, Northeast, Kansas City, Central, Saint Louis, Southwest, Ozark, Southeast
Individuals across Missouri live a lifestyle of hunting, fishing, trapping and improving habitat for wildlife exist across Missouri and Missouri is 93% private land.
These individuals belong to conservation groups and the amount of money they have raised and how they put it back into the region.
Individuals that belong to more than one group or have in the past.
How they support kids in the Outdoors, the disabled hunters and women in the outdoors.
Habitat improvements they have made.
The Conservation Federation of Missouri was AGAINST landowners getting deer and turkey landowner tags if they only 5 acres.
They say they represent hunters in Missouri and is WATCH DOG.
Well they don’t represent me and ROFLAMO watch dog, they can’t even name the last time they pushed back on MDC.
The Conservation Federation of Missouri and the Missouri National Wild Turkey Federation and dozens of other groups get Million from MDC as vendor payment, and was AGAINST more representation for Missouri Citizens in the Missouri Conservation Commission.
Maybe the Missouri NWTF Biologist should worry about the 18-year decline in wild turkey in Missouri.
Oh, I forget they are silent on that issue.
The same groups that lobbied for the KILLING Ban on Feral Hogs on public ground.
Wonder Why?
You can buy silence or support just takes money.
PRE PAID LOBBYIST CARD
You can buy silence or support just takes money.
Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows...
Missouri Department of Conservation Vendor Payments
Fiscal Year (ending June 30th)
Fiscal Year Vendor Name Payments Total
2012 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $165,000.00
2013 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $50,000.00
2014 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $50,000.00
2019 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $150,000.00
2020 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $125,000.00
2023 CONSERVATION FEDERATION OF MISSOURI $32,400.00
Missouri Department of Conservation Vendor Payments
Fiscal Year (ending June 30th)
Fiscal Year Vendor Name Payments Total
2012 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $44,000.00
2013 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $34,000.00
2014 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $33,981.34
2015 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $32,836.80
2016 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $78,827.08
2017 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $44,000.00
2018 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $119,000.00
2019 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $90,000.00
2020 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $65,000.00
2021 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $90,000.00
2022 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $55,000.00
2023 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $55,000.00
2024 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $55,000.00
2025 NATIONAL WILD TURKEY FEDERATION $35,000.00
2012 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $6,000.00
2013 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $15,000.00
2014 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $20,110.95
2015 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $48,705.97
2016 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $72,440.52
2017 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $49,205.18
2018 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $72,794.82
2022 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $61,400.00
2023 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $73,578.00
2024 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $71,078.00
2025 QUAIL AND UPLAND WILDLIFE $35,539.00
Missouri Department of Conservation Vendor Payments
Fiscal Year (ending June 30th)
Fiscal Year Vendor Name Payments Total
2013 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $48,289.78
2014 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $50,000.00
2015 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $50,000.00
2016 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $82,124.08
2017 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $125,500.00
2018 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $110,000.00
2019 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $119,500.00
2020 QUALITY DEER MANAGEMENT $110,000.00
2021 NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION $160,000.00
2022 NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION $20,000.00
2023 NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION $120,000.00
2024 NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION $120,000.00
2025 NATIONAL DEER ASSOCIATION $128,400.00
Missouri Accountability Portal for Expenditures
Missouri Department of Conservation Vendor Payments
Fiscal Year (ending June 30th)
Fiscal Year Vendor Name Payments Total
2006 DUCKS UNLIMITED $220,000.00
2007 DUCKS UNLIMITED $250,000.00
2008 DUCKS UNLIMITED $275,000.00
2009 DUCKS UNLIMITED $283,138.21
2010 DUCKS UNLIMITED $340,041.07
2011 DUCKS UNLIMITED $338,702.49
2012 DUCKS UNLIMITED $349,430.86
2013 DUCKS UNLIMTED $336,469.00
2014 DUCKS UNLIMITED $396,410.97
2015 DUCKS UNLIMITED $393,978.48
2016 DUCKS UNLIMITED $439,710.00
2017 DUCKS UNLIMITED $342,490.00
2018 DUCKS UNLIMITED $428,000.00
2019 DUCKS UNLIMITED $297,200.00
2020 DUCKS UNLIMITED $244,650.00
2021 DUCKS UNLIMITED $287,750.00
2022 DUCKS UNLIMITED $328,750.00
2024 DUCKS UNLIMITED $454,299.17
2023 DUCKS UNLIMITED $437,291.00
2025 DUCKS UNLIMITED $50,000
Missouri Department of Conservation Vendor Payments
Fiscal Year (ending June 30th)
Fiscal Year Vendor Name Payments Total
2006 PHEASANT FOREVER $45,000.00
2007
2008 PHEASANT FOREVER $53,514.00
2009 PHEASANT FOREVER $19,575.00
2010
2011
2012 PHEASANT FOREVER $21,313.93
2013 PHEASANT FOREVER $140,585.74
2014 PHEASANT FOREVER $219,120.79
2015 PHEASANT FOREVER $264,015.06
2016 PHEASANT FOREVER $307,197.00
2017 PHEASANT FOREVER $244,531.40
2018 PHEASANT FOREVER $293,686.57
2019 PHEASANT FOREVER $376,619.08
2020 PHEASANT FOREVER $415,000.00
2021 PHEASANT FOREVER $288,417.59
2022 PHEASANT FOREVER $815,275.09
2023 PHEASANT FOREVER $734,703.43
2024 PHEASANT FOREVER $748,233.31
2025 PHEASANT FOREVER $473,559.66
2024 National Bobwhite & Grassland Initiative - $658,700.00
The public never learns. I don’t know who needs to hear this, but scientists, biologists, game and fish departments and conservation groups are not cut from a finer cloth than the rest of the humanity. Many are willing to fudge data, omit inconvenient results from reports or straight up lie, for money, prestige or advancement!
Shall we “Follow the $cience”?
This statement has been proven over multiple times!
Former Tennessee Wildlife and Resources Agency biologist: agency manipulated data on deer disease In a lawsuit filed against the agency, the former employee claims officials misled the public about the rate of neurological disorder in deer, changing protocols to avoid admitting mistakes
https://tennesseelookout.com/2023/09/07/former-tennessee-wildlife-and-resources-agency-biologist-agency-manipulated-data-on-deer-disease/
Missouri Buck - 2½ years old adult buck Missouri Buck Travels 186 Miles
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Missouri Buck - 2½ years old adult buck Missouri Buck Travels 186 Miles -
Most yearling bucks already dispersed from birth range.
He left his adult home range in northwest Missouri on November 4, 2017, and traveled 186 miles over 22 days, an average of more than 8 miles per day. That distance in a straight line could have taken the buck across the entire width of northern Missouri and well into Illinois. As it was, the straight-line distance from start to finish of 134 miles is more than five times the next closest adult buck dispersal movement in scientific records, 25 miles.
Implementation of this regulation was modified in 2019 when the radius of designated counties was changed from 25 miles to 10 miles based on results of a five-year study conducted cooperatively by MDC and the University of Missouri which found that more than 90% of deer dispersed less than ten miles out of 700 deer.
10% or 70 deer dispersed more than ten Miles.
“This buck was one of 700 animals tracked in this study, but there’s over a million deer in Missouri,”. “Even if this is happening once in every 10,000 animals, it’s potentially happening a hundred times a year.
A whitetail buck's dispersal distance can vary greatly depending on factors like habitat availability, but on average, young bucks will disperse between 1-5 miles away from their birth area, with some studies showing dispersal distances ranging from a few miles to over 100 miles, especially in areas with LIMITED FOREST COVER.
Penn State University Study: Shows the highly variable nature of dispersal distance for young non-migratory bucks. Average dispersal distances ranged from 1.9 miles to 23.6 miles, depending upon the amount of available forest cover. Typically, scant forest cover contributed to greater dispersal distance, sometimes exceeding 100 miles. Given the available data, it appears whitetails require at least 35%, and possibly as much as 50%, FOREST COVER IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE DISPERSAL DISTANCE OF YOUNG BUCKS.
This study showed that most (50% to 80%) young bucks are inclined to disperse to establish new home ranges by the time they are 1 1/2 years old, regardless of deer population density or amount of forest cover.
For example, in South Dakota, Illinois and eastern Montana study areas, where forests covered less than 35% of the landscape, young bucks dispersed on average 17.3 miles, and one deer in Montana traveled 132 miles. By comparison, in other areas, where forests covered 50% to 70% of the landscape, young bucks dispersed an average of only 4.2 miles, with a maximum distance of 34.8 miles for one buck from Maryland.
FY 2000 - Note from the past Father of Wild Turkey Restoration in Missouri – MDC Biologist Vangilder - MANAGEMENT IMPLICATIONS - Nowhere is there an area in north Missouri of (15,000 ac) that is 70% timbered. Corn and soybean fields more than make up for the lack of trees and turkey densities in the northern part of the state are much higher than in the more heavily forested parts of south Missouri.
This has my head scratching.
If this high level of hunting pressure is applied consistently (over 20 years), less than 5% of the males on average. (But the populations has decline what ADULT MALES)
We found that harvesting a high proportion of the adult males in the herd — around 40% every year for 20 years — is expected to keep chronic wasting disease at pretty low numbers. (If population has declined why does it take 20 years to reduce it)
The disease has been implicated in the declines of deer and elk in several states. (Which States?)
The disease spreads easily through the environment from infected deer droppings, urine and saliva. (Then 100% of the deer in 20 years would have it)
https://buckrail.com/usgs-reports-hunting-can-manage-chronic-wasting-disease/
TEXAS COUNTY, MISSOURI
January 3, 2025 – Houston, Missouri – Wal-Mart
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Do you know your history and remember the maps and research?
CWD is considered by some to be one of the greatest conservation challenges of our time and is likely the greatest threat to Missouri’s deer population since the species almost disappeared from the state a century ago. Because CWD is 100% fatal to deer and significantly lowers their survival rate, it is a significant threat to Missouri’s deer population, hunting culture, and economy.
Grain, salt products, minerals, and other consumable products used to attract deer are prohibited year-round within CWD Management Zone counties!
If you wonder why the regulations are not statewide - The "frog in boiling water" is a metaphor that describes how people may not notice or react to threats that arise gradually over time. The story goes that if a frog is suddenly placed in boiling water, it will jump out to escape. However, if a frog is placed in tepid water and the temperature is gradually increased, the frog will not notice the danger and will eventually boil to death.
The story is often used as a metaphor to illustrate how people may accept things that slowly and steadily take control of their lives. It can be applied to Missouri disease management.
The CWD Management Zone includes counties within approximately 25 miles of CWD detections.
2012 – 6 Counties
2013 – 6 Counties
2014 – 6 Counties
2015 – 19 Counties
2016 – 29 Counties
2017 – 41 Counties
2018 – 48 Counties
The CWD Management Zone includes counties within approximately 10 miles of CWD detections.
2019 – 29 Counties
2020 – 30 Counties
2021 – 34 Counties
2022 – 38 Counties
2023 – 52 Counties
2024 – 70 Counties
2025 – 81 Counties unofficial at this moment.
Implementation of this regulation was modified in 2019 when the radius of designated counties was changed from 25 miles to 10 miles based on results of a five-year study conducted cooperatively by MDC and the University of Missouri which found that more than 90% of deer dispersed less than ten miles out of 700 deer.
Note: “As mentioned multiple times in Missouri Commission Meetings the MDC did not have enough staff to Man all CWD Mandatory Check stations, but this has nothing to do with the 25 mile to 10 mile change.”
Because young bucks leave the area where they were born, often traveling many miles, the antler-point restriction is removed in the CWD Management Zone. This reduces the chances of young bucks spreading CWD to new areas.
10% or 70 deer dispersed more than ten Miles.
Missouri on November 4, 2017, and traveled 186 miles over 22 days, an average of more than 8 miles per day.
“This buck was one of 700 animals tracked in this study, but there’s over a million deer in Missouri,”. “Even if this is happening once in every 10,000 animals, it’s potentially happening a hundred times a year.
A whitetail buck's dispersal distance can vary greatly depending on factors like habitat availability, but on average, young bucks will disperse between 1-5 miles away from their birth area, with some studies showing dispersal distances ranging from a few miles to over 100 miles, especially in areas with LIMITED FOREST COVER.
Penn State University Study: Shows the highly variable nature of dispersal distance for young non-migratory bucks. Average dispersal distances ranged from 1.9 miles to 23.6 miles, depending upon the amount of available forest cover. Typically, scant forest cover contributed to greater dispersal distance, sometimes exceeding 100 miles. Given the available data, it appears whitetails require at least 35%, and possibly as much as 50%, FOREST COVER IN ORDER TO MINIMIZE THE DISPERSAL DISTANCE OF YOUNG BUCKS.
This study showed that most (50% to 80%) young bucks are inclined to disperse to establish new home ranges by the time they are 1 1/2 years old, regardless of deer population density or amount of forest cover.
For example, in South Dakota, Illinois and eastern Montana study areas, where forests covered less than 35% of the landscape, young bucks dispersed on average 17.3 miles, and one deer in Montana traveled 132 miles. By comparison, in other areas, where forests covered 50% to 70% of the landscape, young bucks dispersed an average of only 4.2 miles, with a maximum distance of 34.8 miles for one buck from Maryland.
Example: Buck 140: The Traveling Whitetail: One of the most famous bucks followed by MSU, No. 140 is known for its great migrations. The deer was captured on Dec. 20, 2020. At that time, it was 2-½ years old. MSU lab’s research. Like about one-third of adult whitetail bucks, the deer expressed a mobile personality, but on the extreme side of the spectrum. So much, in fact, that it spent time in Mississippi and Louisiana, traveling up to 18 miles and swimming the 1-mile-wide Mississippi River multiple times (at peak flood stage).
FY 2000 - Note from the past Father of Wild Turkey Restoration in Missouri – MDC Biologist Vangilder - MANAGEMENT IMPLICATIONS - Nowhere is there an area in north Missouri of (15,000 ac) that is 70% timbered. Corn and soybean fields more than make up for the lack of trees and turkey densities in the northern part of the state are much higher than in the more heavily forested parts of south Missouri.
At no time in United States history are there more regulations, complex regulations, insane regulations and lack of common-sense regulations on hunting and trapping than anytime in history.
Books could be filled with examples.
But the nations game and fish departments and the federal government spout off giving more opportunities and wanting more recruitment of young hunters and trapper are there priorities.
I'm not the original author. Why Buy a TAG.
I am no longer gonna purchase tags to hunt during the regular deer season. It is just too hard to compete with the other hunters during this period. I will just wait until the CWD killing season is open and dump out $20 worth of corn, charge my spotlight, set in my truck after dark and kill as many as I want. Then let the MDC know how many I have and where they are so they can come get them to be tested for CWD, and if tested negative they will take them to be processed and pay the processing fee and call me when it’s frozen and ready for me to pick up. No more early mornings setting in the cold risking my life and limb climbing up and down to get in my stand waiting and hoping to see a deer, much less a trophy buck, day after day, hour after hour, doing my best to not get hit by another hunters stray bullet just so I can enjoy a tasty bit of back strap, or some delicious smoked summer sausage or snack sticks my grandkids and I so enjoy. Just think of all the time this is gonna save me.
Oregon County, Mo.
February 12, 2025
Authorization to Destroy by MDC staff are now hard at work at the Dan and Maureen Cover Memorial Wildlife Area near Alton, Mo.
They come out almost daily, sometimes they hunt until late at night.
LYMPH NODES
MDC - How Sampling Works CWD sampling takes only a few minutes and consists of cutting an incision across the neck of harvested deer to remove lymph nodes for testing. Tissue samples are sent to an independent lab for testing.
CWD found in Lymph nodes.
ZERO in Missouri have reported to be found in by OBEX (Brain stem) CWD is Neurological Brain disease which means only an OBEX positive is CWD Positive... Lymph node positive may NEVER test positive for CWD through the OBEX.... Neurological Disease is determined to be positive when it has not reached the Brain. Many deer have tested lymph node positive yet not detected through the OBEX...
Redneck Terms: The only way to CONFIRM a deer has CWD is to have a necropsy to see the degrading of the myelin in the brain. Anything other than a necropsy is NOT comprehensive information.
Comprehensive information would include
1. Number tested.
2. Number detected.
3. Number of confirmations by a brain necropsy.
FYI: Myelin is a fatty insulating sheath that surrounds nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord.
They tested positive for the prion protein known to possibly develop into CWD as there is no live test to check the lymph nodes and obex to confirm that 100% of the time the prion makes it past the lymph nodes to the obex.
In the captive deer facility they must look at the obex (brain) was negative yet the Game and Fish Departments can’t say that about the wild deer because they don’t test the obex.
Why NOT? If they really want to learn about how infected an area is they would want to check the obex to see if or how far advanced the disease would be in a deer.
SHEEP AND DEER
The connection between sheep and deer at research facility no one wants to talk about.
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I can’t make YOU! YOU must decide! I have thought about this for the past 10 years.
There is currently no treatment for scrapie!
There is currently no treatment for CWD!
Scrapie is a fatal, degenerative brain disease that affects sheep and goats.
CWD is a fatal, neurodegenerative disease that affects cervids (deer, elk, moose).
So what are we doing?
Things you need to deep dive and share. – Is destroying deer doing more harm than good?
The connection between sheep and deer at research facility no one wants to talk about.
No 1. Origins of CWD - When deer were kept with sheep in Fort Collins Colorado research facility in the 1960’s, run by the Colorado Division of Wildlife and Colorado University.
Classical Scrapie in Sheep - Short story sheep got it they killed them all completely cleaned facility and left it sit for years. Then they were repopulated with sheep that had zero scrapie and they all ended up with disease.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4672192/
Scrapie in sheep is primarily controlled through a combination of genetic selection to breed for naturally resistant animals, rigorous surveillance programs to identify infected flocks, and immediate depopulation of infected herds, with the primary focus on identifying and removing genetically susceptible sheep from breeding populations, alongside strict cleaning and disinfection practices on affected farms; there is currently no treatment for scrapie, so eradication relies on preventing further spread through management practices and genetic selection.
Research into genetic markers of all the sheep. 251,000 genetic markers of sheep.
Some are genetic markers more susceptible than the other genetic markers.
No. 2. Destroying Deer VS Genetic Diversity VS Hunting Season VS Genetic Diversity
By killing off large portions of a population you decrease genetic diversity. Genetic diversity and variability are the keystone elements to genetic adaptability, herd immunity and natural selection. The agencies and their Biologist would be lying if they denied such knowledge. Doing such decreases the vigor of the herd and sets the herd up for catastrophic losses.
No. 3. Chris Seabury, a veterinary professor at Texas A&M University
https://scholars.library.tamu.edu/vivo/display/n08037241
Mammalian molecular genetics, genomics, and population genetics; animal disease genomics; utilization of population and quantitative genetics to elucidate host loci and relevant variation influencing differential susceptibility to disease, adaptability, and feed efficiency; next generation sequencing and de novo genome assembly as a mechanism to enable novel research programs in non-model mammalian and avian species of interest.
Ph.D. in Genetics, Texas A&M University - (College Station, Texas, United States) 2004
M.S. in Biology, Sul Ross State University - (Alpine, Texas, United States) 2000
B.S. in Zoology, Sul Ross State University - (Alpine, Texas, United States) 1997
No. 4 – Is the Missouri Department of Conservation start genetic testing whitetail deer for “GG” genetic markers which is highly susceptible to CWD and “SS” genetic markers which are more resistant to CWD when they are taking CWD samples?
“SS” genetic markers that are more resistant to CWD and could actually slow the spread of CWD.
Genetic marker “GG” is highly susceptible to CWD, and Genetic marker “SS” are the most resistant to CWD.
https://youtu.be/TTZ_8V7jsjw?si=C_9w4XUxWGjj-Mxd
Mossy Oak Game Keepers - EP:223 | A Deer Discussion from A Different Perspective - Apr 23, 2024
CWD genetics starts around the 45 minute 10 second mark.
No. 5 - Oklahoma Plans to Combat CWD by Releasing Captive-Bred Deer into the Wild
https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/oklahoma-cwd-genetic-improvement-law/
NO. 6 - House Bill 1417, filed by Rep. Robert Morris, R-Fort Wayne, would create a pilot program to combat Chronic Wasting Disease by testing deer and looking for certain genetic markers that create a higher resiliency to the fatal disease.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2025/02/13/critics-plan-to-combat-cwd-could-put-indianas-wild-deer-at-risk/78412106007/
WILDWOOD, MO. – You can’t make this stuff up -
ZERO RECORDS, ZERO SAMPLES, ZERO TEST – INSPECTIONS ONLY!!!
CWD considered by the Missouri Department of Conservation greatest conservation challenges of our time and is likely the greatest threat to Missouri’s deer population!!!
Since MDC says it’s density dependent and lowering the density of the deer population would prevent the spread. To me it is the perfect opportunity to test deer without having to ask for landowners’ help just the city of Wildwood and the company they hire. Which I am told gets 700 dollars of taxpayer funds from the city.
I would like to know why the 300 deer in Wildwood Deer Culling and the 355 more to come have not been tested for CWD?
When it is 10 miles from a Franklin County CWD deer in which is current protocol and in MDC research they had deer both bucks and does travel even further.
MISSOURI DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION
Subject: Public Records Request :: R000345-012325
RE: Public Records Request of January 23, 2025, Reference # R000345-012325
On 2/14/2025 11:18:02 AM, MO Dept of Conservation Records wrote: The Missouri Department of Conservation has reviewed your request and has determined there are no responsive record(s) to your request.
SAINT LOUIS ZOO
Some of the Wildwood Dead Deer are feed to the Wolves are the deer tested for CWD, would the zoo want to know and not allow it to spread in zoo environment.
SAINT LOUIS ZOO - 1/24/2025
Thanks for contacting Saint Louis Zoo with your concerns about CWD. We are incredibly careful with what we feed all animals in our care, including the American red wolves at the Saint Louis Zoo Sears Lehmann, Jr. Wildlife Reserve.
We are not aware of any reports of CWD in any of the deer populations that would be included in deer donations to the Wildlife Reserve and, thankfully, there is currently no evidence that CWD affects predators like wolves. Nevertheless, Zoo staff follow safety protocols that include “INSPECTIONS” of all whole-prey feed to check for evidence of CWD and other health issues. The health of animals, both in our care and in the wild, is incredibly important to us, so we always err on the side of caution in these checks.
Feeding a diet that is primarily whole, native prey is the best and healthiest option for red wolves that are candidates for potential reintroduction to the wild, like all the wolves at the Wildlife Reserve today.
We would refer any specific questions about CWD testing by culling programs to the Missouri Department of Conservation.
Thank you again for sharing your concerns,
Public Relations Specialist
Saint Louis Zoo
One Government Drive, St. Louis, MO 63110
CITY OF WILDWOOD – ZERO Response to emails!
February 18, 2025
Missouri Department of Conservation loading up that trailer load of corn at Shawneetown Feed and Seed.
Here comes winter Man Made EHD outbreaks for Perry, Bollinger, Ste, Gen., and Jefferson County
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Carroll/Livingston core area of Missouri.
New Message - February 15, 2025 – Sound like Man Made EHD event is over for Carroll/Livingston core area of Missouri.
This was from an MDC Lieutenant, I know a person that acquired CWD Authorization to Destroy, here was text he got on this past Saturday.
“This is Lieutenant Wright, with the Missouri Department of Conservation. We have reached our targeted removal goal of 355 deer in the Carroll/Livingston core area. Therefore, your 2025 authorization to remove deer for CWD management is no longer valid. Please inform all your authorized shooters AND REPLY to this message with YOUR FULL NAME. Thank you.”
MONEY, MONEY, AND MONEY
Missouri Department of Conservation CWD Estimated Taxpayer Funded Cost of $19,742,825.97 for the past 3 years. FY 23, 24, 25 average of $6,580,941.99
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money - State - You will never see this in press release from MDC.
FY23 – CWD federal grant number is F22AF02261 for FY23 = $5,014,741.10 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
FY24 – CWD federal grant number is F23AF02089 for FY24 = $5,581,455.23 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
FY25 – CWD federal grant number is F24AF02854 for FY25 = $4,710,923,15 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
- MOBUCK$ 19 million total - has been issued for 2025/2026 - F25AF01720 for FY26
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
The MDC CWD WINTER OPERERATION PLAN which has never been seen by the public or provided to the Missouri Citizens. Along with the information within or the federal grant money earmarked for CWD activities.
FY26 – CWD federal grant number is F25AF01720 for FY26 = $4,523,612.72 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
The KEY word is UTILIZED - While "utilize" can sometimes sound like a fancier way of saying "use," it implies using something for a purpose other than its intended one or making good use of something. Investing in CWD. Federal Dollars available might as well get all you can.
Federal taxpayer money Who cares about inflation. What a great business plan, you invest 25% and you get 75% off 5 million dollars for free. Sign me up.
MDC receives federal funds through the Wildlife Restoration Program. Annual appropriations are allocated by the federal government to all 50 states based on the size of the state and the number of permits issued to eligible individuals.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service administers the Wildlife Restoration program through the issuance of grants to the applicable state agencies. State fish and wildlife agencies may utilize Wildlife Restoration funds for several reasons, including:
1. Public hunting access.
2. Hunter education.
3. Development, maintenance, and operation of target ranges.
4. Recruitment, retention, and reactivation activities.
5. Wildlife management and research.
MDC UTILIZES the last category, wildlife management and research, to seek reimbursement of eligible CWD related expenses. Specifically, MDC utilizes some Wildlife Restoration funds to reimburse 75% of certain qualifying expenses associated with CWD surveillance and management efforts.
Records contain the requested MDC cash receipts for the relevant grants, the confirmation from the U.S. Treasury of the claim, and the Missouri State Treasurer’s confirmation of the funds.
When reviewing the enclosed records, please direct your attention to grant title “Statewide Wildlife Disease Management” when that title is associated with grant description
- MOBUCK$ 19 million total - has been issued for 2025/2026 - F25AF01720 for FY26
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
The MDC CWD WINTER OPERERATION PLAN which has never been seen by the public or provided to the Missouri Citizens. Along with the information within or the federal grant money earmarked for CWD activities.
FY26 – CWD federal grant number is F25AF01720 for FY26 = $4,523,612.72 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money for 2025
Missouri CWD funding for 2025– Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
You have now seen the CWD Missouri Taxpayer Money for 2023 estimate = $6,019,654.80 2024 estimate = $7,441,940.31
2025 Grant Application is 218 pages long your only seeing 16 pages below. Additional pages will be published in days to come because they Show what Authorization to Destroy looks like on paper and what is being paid for.
I do not have the GRANT Numbers for 2022, and before., so no Missouri Taxpayer or I would bet Missouri State Representative really knows how long the CWD money train has been running. You don’t have to worry about the Missouri Media asking. “They pay them a lot of money in advertising to keep criticism of them off the air!”
No matter how many times I ask, I can’t get a detail list of the Tons of Corn, Bullets, Guns, Blinds, Chairs, Gas, Trucks, etc. etc. CWD has become a supplemental income stream and great investment spend 25% of Missouri Taxpayer Money to Get 75% of Federal Taxpayer Money. All that adds to inflation and as things go up the more 1/8 cents sales tax MDC gets. Greatest Business plan EVER! Sign me up!
Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows... Only MDC leadership know the actual number.
Multiple Meetings from Missouri Department on Conservation on Video and Radio – Quote
“We don’t get any money to my knowledge.”
“MDC is NOT receiving any federal money "that is earmarked"
I would like the description of grant FY25 – Department of Interior CWD federal grant number is F24AF02854 for MDC
FY25 – CWD federal grant number is F24AF02854 for FY25 = $4,710,923,15 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
MDC UTILIZES reimbursement of eligible CWD related expenses.
I would like a LIST of the ELIGIBLE cwd related expenses the grant reimbursement.
federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC. NO matter how many times you asked, the Missouri Public will never be allowed to see a detail of how every dollar spent.
CWD Salaried Employees = $2,235,000.00
CWD Hourly Employee = $255,000.00
CWD Sub Total = $2,495,000.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Salaried Employees = $1,882,764.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Hourly Employees = $21,241.50
CWD Subtotal Fringe Benefits = $1,904,005.50
CWD Total Personnel & Fringe (Base for Indirect Cost) = $4,394,005.50
CWD Indirect Costs = $1,887,225.36
“What seems to be out of place is 2023 and 2024 had Millions in below categories now not listed.” Money is still coming in but not here. Money Hidden!
Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows
The FY25 segment of this grant will not be associated with travel, equipment, supplies, contractual or other miscellaneous costs. This includes agreements with laboratory contractors or services provided by cooperators (e.g., taxidermy and meat processor payments (lymph node extractions required for testing).
CWD Travel = $0 – NO Travel expenses listed!
CWD Supplies = $0 – NO supplies listed!
CWD Contractual = $0 – NO obligation spelled out!
CWD Construction = $0 - NO obligation spelled
CWD Other = taxidermist payments, printing, shipping = $0
CWD Total Cost Estimated = $6,281,230.86 - This budget has been calculated using FY25 fringe benefit and indirect cost rates. Our FY25 Negotiated Indirect Cost Rate Agreement (NICRA) has been provided to USFWS. Requests for reimbursement will be calculated using the appropriate fringe benefit and indirect cost rates.
CWD Federal Share 75% = $4,710,923.15 – Federal Taxpayer Funded
CWD State Share 25% = $1,570,307.71 – State Taxpayer Funded
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money for 2024
Missouri CWD funding for 2024– Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
You have now seen the CWD Missouri Taxpayer Money for 2023 estimate = $6,019,654.80 BRACE YOURSELF - you’re about to see a $1,422,285.51 increase for 2024 CWD.
I do not have the GRANT Numbers for 2022, and before., so no Missouri Taxpayer or I would bet Missouri State Representative really knows how long the CWD money train has been running. You don’t have to worry about the Missouri Media asking. “They pay them a lot of money in advertising to keep criticism of them off the air!”
No matter how many times I ask, I can’t get a detail list of the Tons of Corn, Bullets, Guns, Blinds, Chairs, Gas, Trucks, etc. etc. CWD has become a supplemental income stream and great investment spend 25% of Missouri Taxpayer Money to Get 75% of Federal Taxpayer Money. All that adds to inflation and as things go up the more 1/8 cents sales tax MDC gets. Greatest Business plan EVER! Sign me up!
Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows... Only MDC leadership know the actual number.
Multiple Meetings from Missouri Department on Conservation on Video and Radio – Quote
“We don’t get any money to my knowledge.”
“MDC is NOT receiving any federal money "that is earmarked"
I would like the description of grant FY24 – Department of Interior CWD federal grant number is F23AF02089 for MDC
FY24 – CWD federal grant number is F23AF02089 for FY24 = $5,581,455.23 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC. NO matter how many times you asked, the Missouri Public will never be allowed to see a detail of how every dollar spent.
CWD Salaried Employees = $2,180,000.00
CWD Hourly Employee = $315,000.00
CWD Sub Total = $2,495,000.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Salaried Employees = $1,614,072.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Hourly Employees = $26,995.50
CWD Subtotal Fringe Benefits = $1,641,067.50
CWD Total Personnel & Fringe (Base for Indirect Cost) = $4,136,067.50
CWD Indirect Costs = $2,157,372.81
CWD Travel = $100,000.00 – NO Travel expenses listed!
CWD Supplies = $236,000.00 – NO supplies listed!
CWD Contractual = $661,000.00 – NO obligation spelled out!
CWD Other = taxidermist payments, printing, shipping = $151,500.00
CWD Total Cost Estimated = $7,441,940.31 - The FY24 Negotiated Indirect Cost Rate Agreement (NICRA) has not yet been approved, and FY24 fringe benefit rates are not yet available. Therefore, this budget has been calculated using FY23 rates. Claims for reimbursement will be calculated using approved FY24 indirect cost and fringe
benefit rates.
CWD Federal Share 75% = $5,581,455.23– Federal Taxpayer Funded
CWD State Share 25% = $1,860,485.08– State Taxpayer Funded
Missouri – Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money for 2023
Missouri CWD funding for 2023– Show-Me-State or Missouri – Show-Me-The Money – State
I do not have the GRANT Numbers for 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, 2018, etc., so no Missouri Taxpayer or I would bet Missouri State Representative really knows how long the CWD money train has been running. You don’t have to worry about the Missouri Media asking. “They pay them a lot of money in advertising to keep criticism of them off the air!”
No matter how many times I ask, I can’t get a detail list of the Tons of Corn, Bullets, Guns, Blinds, Chairs, Gas, Trucks, etc. etc. CWD has become a supplemental income stream and great investment spend 25% of Missouri Taxpayer Money to Get 75% of Federal Taxpayer Money. All that adds to inflation and as things go up the more 1/8 cents sales tax MDC gets. Greatest Business plan EVER! Sign me up!
Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows... Only MDC leadership know the actual number.
Multiple Meetings from Missouri Department on Conservation on Video and Radio – Quote
“We don’t get any money to my knowledge.”
“MDC is NOT receiving any federal money "that is earmarked"
I would like the description of grant FY23 – Department of Interior CWD federal grant number is F22AF02261 for MDC, NO matter how many times asked you the Missouri Public will never be allowed to see a detail of how every dollar spent.
Photos of the above information has been provided, after filing Open Records Request with the Missouri Department of Conservation on March 21, 2025 and received it May 9, 2025.
FY23 – CWD federal grant number is F22AF02261 for FY23 = $5,014,741.10 federal taxpayer money reimbursed to MDC.
CWD Salaried Employees = $1,800,000.00
CWD Hourly Employee = $200,000.00
CWD Sub Total = $2,000,000.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Salaried Employees = $1,800,000.00
CWD Fringe Benefits Hourly Employees = $200,000.00
CWD Subtotal Fringe Benefits = $1,308,240.00
CWD Total Personnel & Fringe (Base for Indirect Cost) = $1,561,654.80
CWD Indirect Costs = $1,561,654.80
CWD Travel = $100,000.00 – NO Travel expenses listed!
CWD Supplies = $229,000.00 – NO supplies listed!
CWD Contractual = $661,000.00 – NO obligation spelled out!
CWD Other = taxidermist payments, printing, shipping = $142,500.00
CWD Total Cost Estimated = $6,019,654.80 - The FY23 Negotiated Indirect Cost Rate Agreement (NICRA) has not yet been approved, and FY23 fringe benefit rates are not yet available. Therefore, this budget has been calculated using FY22 rates. Claims for reimbursement will be calculated using approved FY23 indirect cost and fringe
benefit rates.
CWD Federal Share 75% = $4,514,741.10 – Federal Taxpayer Funded
CWD State Share 25% = $1,504,913.70 – State Taxpayer Funded
CWD Federal Funding for Missouri - Round and round she goes, where she stops, nobody knows...
(Thank you to the People of Missouri for finding this and sharing with me)
YOU are paying for the YOUR very thing you may be Against!!!!!! PS Enjoy your inflation!
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Matching Requirements: Percent: Other Eligible State agencies (including Puerto Rico) may be paid up to seventy-five percent (75%) of project costs through the program. States are required to provide the remaining twenty-five percent (25%) of the project costs from a non-Federal source, which can include license fees.
NOTE: During the MDC meeting in Perry County – One MDC employee says no money – The other says 75% reimbursement for CWD activities. Video will be in Comments.
History will show this to be a pivotal moment in hunting history.
The Nation’s leading Chronic Wasting Disease Scientist.
Before you decide anything, you need to watch and then watch again and listen.
History will show this to be a pivotal moment in hunting history.
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The nation's leading chronic wasting disease scientist explains how left-wing political scare tactics have gotten in the way of curing the problem.
Chris Seabury, a veterinary professor at Texas A&M University
Mammalian molecular genetics, genomics, and population genetics; animal disease genomics; utilization of population and quantitative genetics to elucidate host loci and relevant variation influencing differential susceptibility to disease, adaptability, and feed efficiency; next generation sequencing and de novo genome assembly as a mechanism to enable novel research programs in non-model mammalian and avian species of interest.
Ph.D. in Genetics, Texas A&M University - (College Station, Texas, United States) 2004
M.S. in Biology, Sul Ross State University - (Alpine, Texas, United States) 2000
B.S. in Zoology, Sul Ross State University - (Alpine, Texas, United States) 1997
Do your own research!
You need to deep dive. – Is destroying deer doing more harm than good?
The connection between sheep and deer at research facility no one wants to talk about.
First Documented Origins of CWD but was it the first - When deer were kept with sheep in Fort Collins Colorado research facility in the 1960’s, run by the Colorado Division of Wildlife and Colorado University.
Classical Scrapie in Sheep Research – Sound familiar!!
Sheep get Scrapie they and they destroy the herd in culling activity!
Completely clean facility and left it sit for years!
Then they were repopulated with sheep that had zero scrapie!
All the new Sheep ended up with disease again!
There is currently no treatment for scrapie!
There is currently no treatment for CWD!
Scrapie is a fatal, degenerative brain disease that affects sheep and goats.
CWD is a fatal, neurodegenerative disease that affects cervids (deer, elk, moose).
So, what are we doing? Testing then Destroying, Testing then Destroying. Name one game and fish department trying to find away out of this madness!
Scrapie in sheep is primarily controlled through a combination of genetic selection to breed for naturally resistant animals, rigorous surveillance programs to identify infected flocks, and immediate depopulation of infected herds, with the primary focus on identifying and removing genetically susceptible sheep from breeding populations, alongside strict cleaning and disinfection practices on affected farms; there is currently no treatment for scrapie, so eradication relies on preventing further spread through management practices and genetic selection.
Research into genetic markers of sheep. 251,000 genetic markers of sheep.
Some genetic markers are more susceptible than the other genetic markers.
No. 2. Destroying Deer VS Genetic Diversity VS Hunting Season VS Genetic Diversity
By killing off large portions of a population you decrease genetic diversity. Genetic diversity and variability are the keystone elements to genetic adaptability, herd immunity and natural selection. The agencies and their Biologist would be lying if they denied such knowledge. Doing such decreases the vigor of the herd and sets the herd up for catastrophic losses.
Why do the MDC use population decline out west and northern states and not in Missouri?
It all cracks me up, don't worry they all forget about the old data out west, and the Wisconsin Data that is decades old.
They use states out west and north to show population decline because they have weather and predators that the southern states don't.
If population decline is a worry then why had MDC gone from 5 deer season to 11 deer season.
The only population decline in Missouri is local population decline because of EHD or Culling by MDC.
Does Missouri have harch winters and wolves, like Wyoming?
Published in 2017
Researchers studying mule deer in the Wyoming Range in western Wyoming say that all the fawns they radio-collared last year died in this year's harsh winter and that 40 percent of the female does also perished. University of Wyoming wildlife biologist Kevin Montieth said usually only 15 percent of does die in winterkills.
Montieth said many deer are still on their winter range eating sagebrush, instead of the green grasses they'd normally have access to by now. In some of their habitat, mule deer were dealing with snow levels up to 200 percent of average and died of malnutrition because they could not paw down to more nutritious food.
“What we saw this year is smaller size the offspring growing within these individual females, suggesting that such poor nutritional condition is even suppressing growth of fetuses that moms are carrying,” he said.
Some of the herd is well known for its 150-mile migration to its summer range near Hoback Junction. Montieth said the Wyoming Range mule deer population had been steadily growing but it's likely to take several years for the herd to rebound. He says the herd still hasn't recovered from a similar winterkill back in 1991.
Montieth is part of the Wyoming Range Mule Deer Project that has been documenting the steady growth of the herd until now. He said all that data will come in handy in learning whether mule deer can recover from winterkills like this one.
“Before this winter our intentions for the Wyoming Range Mule Deer Project was to do our work for one more year,” he said. “Now with this winter, our aim is to look beyond that and understand what it looks like for recovery for this deer population.
Montieth added, on the bright side, the high mortality means there will be fewer mouths for the habitat to feed this summer, giving the deer that do survive a good chance of putting on weight before the next winter hits.
Does Missouri what Winters and Wolves like Wisconsin?
The Wisconsinin DNR just completed a Multi year study and it was full of useless data to try to show population decline from areas where CWD prevelance was the highest . The only problem for them was that it didn’t decline. The study began in 2016 and the results came out in January of 2025, nine years later. Makes you wonder if they were waiting and hoping for a decline that never happened. In every report, press release, and discussion about this study it gives data of survival rates, does vs. bucks, etc. it gives everything except populations over time, which is what the study was for. Yet every headline paints a picture of doom and gloom.
Wisconsin first discovered CWD in 2002 primarily where it is still high today. They slaughtered 172,000 healthy deer to stop the spread. Those same counties still have the highest prevalence rate.
Let’s take a look at what has happened.
Below are the top 4 highest prevalence counties in the state and their populations in 2012 and 2024.
2012 2024
Richland 16600 30300
Sauk 18700 37800
Green 8300 11900
Iowa 17300 20100
The top 10 counties of highest CWD prevelance in Wisconsin ALL saw the population INCREASE.
Here is something even more astonishing. There are a lot of counties in Wisconsin that have zero prevelance, yet many of those counties have declined in population. Here are the first 6 counties in alphabetical order that had zero prevalenace with the same population parameter from 2012 to 2024.
2012 2024
Ashland 13700 11800
Baron 18300 27500
Bayfield 28800 30000
Brown 7700 15000
Buffalo 31400 27200
Burnett 27100 24900
I could have listed all of them but it’s the same, some fall, some are stable, and some incease, all except that top 10 counties where prevalence is the highest.
Those funded will rush to say less people are hunting those areas, unlucky for them Wisconsin gives harvest data for each year and each county as well, and the data does not help them. There is not one thing, not one that shows CWD is hurting deer populations, at all.
Here are a few questions since Wisconsin is giving data of the following for each county and has been for decades.
Population
CWD prevelance
Harvest records.
So why did they spend millions of hunting license and tax payer dollars to radio collar deer and study them for nine years when they have had the very data for decades?
Wyoming did the very same study from 2003-2010 and they predicted the whitetail deer in the Casper Region would become extinct, even showing prevelance of 40-60 percent. Yet, here we are 15 years later and whitetail numbers in the Casper region continue to grow. Did Wisconsin not look at this study?
Those pushing the narrative will post or comment the links to headlines saying CWD is wiping out deer herds. There has to be accountability to this.
Here is another one they always send the link to, and you can look it up, titled “A Wyoming mule deer herd is so riddled with CWD it could nearly vanish.”
So once again they collared deer, this time lots of them died quickly and they blamed CWD. Here is what they didnt tell you about hunt area 157 and the others in the study.
The perfect storm happened that really does hurt population.
This area had back to back years of top 5 snowfalls ever recorded. What was worse was the summer droughts that preceded them. Water holes drying up creates mud which is a breeding ground for midge flies, and as reported the EHD outbreak crippled the deer populations.
Drought also meant no browse for fat reserves in the winter, 100 inches of snow made it impossible for deer to eat and many starved to death in the winters of 2022 and 2023. Yet this article says weather wasnt a factor. THE VERY SAME PLACE AS THE STUDY, HAD ITS HIGHEST SNOWFALL EVER, AFTER THE COLLARS WERE PUT ON THE DEER.
CWD propoganda is scaring away deer hunters, and hunters must demand this nonsense to stop.
CWD has become a lucrative business for many, and they are not concerned about what the propoganda is doing to the heritage of deer hunting.
It’s time that hunters demand a stop to this nonsense.
A devastating winter triggered mass die-offs across parts of the Rocky Mountains.
A devastating winter triggered mass die-offs across parts of the Rocky Mountains.
During the winter of 2022–2023, the Rocky Mountains in Wyoming and Utah were hit by one of the harshest seasons in living memory. Deep snow, bitter cold, and lingering storms triggered a massive die-off of wildlife especially among pronghorn and mule deer.
In southwestern Wyoming, wildlife managers tracked mule deer using GPS collars. By spring, 90% of the fawns were dead. So were 30–40% of adult females and half of the bucks. In the Red Desert region, half of the pronghorn population was lost.
These animals typically survive on sagebrush – but deep snow buried it, and crusted drifts made it nearly impossible to reach. They burned through their fat stores just trying to move and feed, and eventually starved.
“This winter has lingered longer than usual,” said Sean Yancey of Wyoming Game and Fish. “They don’t have anything left, and they’re starving to death.”
Elk were less affected, thanks to their size and strength. But some were still fed by wildlife officials to prevent haystack raids and limit contact with cattle, which raises disease risks like brucellosis.
While extreme winters aren’t new to the region – typically hitting every 5 to 7 years – the pattern is changing. In just eight years, wildlife managers have seen three or four severe winters, often followed by drought conditions in summer. That one-two punch of climate volatility is making it harder for herds to recover.
Hunting seasons were cut in response. In Utah, shed antler collection was temporarily banned to reduce stress on already weakened deer.
These species aren't endangered – yet. But if extreme winters keep stacking up, recovery may take longer than nature can afford.
Learn more:
“Extreme Winter Causing Massive Ungulate Die-off in Rockies.” The Wildlife Society, 12 Apr. 2023.
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